Wasn't this on Facepunch?

>>1442
No idea what Facepunch is. The template is pretty generic so it's probably filtered around the tubes.

>>1442
It was on 4chan. ergo, it ended up just about everywhere.

>>1413
What you do when you are working, gathering food, building shelter, and so on, and what you do when you are running for your life are completely different... Sometimes you don't have the luxury of taking your time, yes. But when there isn't a person with a gun chasing you, you do better taking your time, make fewer mistakes, burn energy more efficiently, and so on.

>>1414
That was a more succinct way of putting it. I tend to ramble when I've had a few beer.

I read a wide variety of things to prepare myself if something happens; survival guides, training manuals, etc. But even still, I have to face facts; even with everything that I'd learn from those, my odds are "better than average." In the event of massive amounts of people dying, that rating isn't very good. I'm built for short bursts of speed, I'm not strong, I'm very thin even though I constantly eat, and I'm rather tall. Not a good combination. So I have to compensate. I need a group for optimal survival, and to make myself valuable to a group, "Plain Jane" survival skills alone aren't going to cut it. So I diversify.

I read a lot of James Burke. He's a historian who focuses on science, and more particularly, how unrelated events, political climates and discoveries lead to modern day technologies. This doesn't sound handy at first, but not only does he explain how a lot of old technology works or was discovered, it gives me ground work for various tasks.

I also read a lot of farming guides. Not the modern stuff, either. Like, pre-electricity stuff. You'd be surprised just how much useful stuff is in there. It helps that the town I live in has a Ye Olde Times farming convention. It makes finding stuff like that rather useful. (And I've used it to learn a lot about steam engines.)

I actually have a few books on meatball military medicine. Though they're usually just "beat your chest military pride" books, a few of them have some really useful information in them -- ways to keep people alive when you're out of supplies.

I have a few books on sustainable living. I focus on stuff like "turn a washer motor into a power generator" and the like instead of things such as biodiesel.

All of this stuff is being copied into my own personal guide. I print out revised copies every six months, though I feel like I should come up with a major one and laminate it or something.

There is one more book, a copy of which is nestled down in the very bottom of both my BOBs. It may sound strange, but it's a copy of Mistwalker by

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>>1417

Okay, sorry to shoot you down but we're not seeking to achieve sovereignty. If we tried something like that on US land we'd undoubtedly get shut down in an instant.

Furthermore, while we'd definitely have a doomsday bunker, we certainly wouldn't be living in it 24/7.

>>1422
>Implying i have friends IRL

also i'd be cool chilling in some bunker a mile underground with some anon or something, i've never met an anon that wasn't a pretty cool guy so far, and i went to all 3 Otakon panels so thats saying something

not that any of this is really going to happen lol, but hypothetically speaking i think id' think i'd be cool in a bunker, considering i neve rleave my computer i prob wouldn't even notice lol

>>1436
> considering i neve rleave my computer i prob wouldn't even notice lol

You will notice when you can no longer connect to the internet. When your laptop battery dies and you can't recharge it because there is no power. When you turn on the bathroom tap and realize, I have to save this for drinking water, and so you fill up the tub before it runs dry.

Trust me, you will notice.

>>1430
Look up the music from the Stalker games. Lots of sad harmonica, yeah, actually, but it's usually quite good.

>>1430
I do sort of wonder what kind of music people would make in a P-A situation considering how divorced most are from folk traditions. Would we, for example, end up with troubadors wandering around playing acoustic versions of Nelly and Rihanna?! Are we in for a hipster P-A...

But yea, harmonica and acoustic instruments seem likely. Also I wouldn't discount the usefulness of a guitar so quickly. Once you have a stable enough group, an instrument might go a long way to keeping up morale and keeping the group cohesive. Triumph of the human spirit and all that...

Somewhat related to this topic - some of the best "post-apocalyptic music" I've ever heard:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PEcfuKOJ-A

It features quite a lot of natural instruments like drums and flutes, and has ambient sounds in the background to create the feel of a crowded wasteland bazaar.

I luv romantically apocalyptic
nothing really comes to mind for similar web comics sorry

I love gone with the blastwave more, but....you know. They don't update. EVER.

Here's that Fallout comic. It's Penny Arcade;

http://fallout.bethsoft.com/eng/vault/pennyarcade.php

>>1410
Prior to the Scientology drama if memory serves me at least, the only "cause" Anonymous really supported as a larger group was free speech, which is what sparked the anti-Scientology crusade in the first place (well there was one other cause they believed in, namely that anyone who tortured or killed a cat and was dumb enough to put evidence of it online was guaranteed to have their life ruined. Anon always liked cats but that's another story). It never seemed to come from a position of altruism so much as "you can't fuck with the internet because WE own the internet, motherfucker!" Anyone who knew about them at all thought they were this big scary amorphous mass that had the power to destroy anything they felt like just for fun. The CoS became a prime target because they are so batshit insane that the results of trolling them had to be hilarious whatever the outcome. But there are many people who had been legitimately working against the CoS and had been protesting them for decades, and they saw Anonymous' actions as the big surge in activity that they had been waiting for. So the whole thing picked up steam and got on the news. A lot of the new kids who joined in sort of missed the original point and the image of Anonymous as champion of social justice mostly emerged out of that. A lot of Anonymi really hated this and actively worked against the Chanologists because being a bunch of bitter misanthropes they didn't want to be associated with anyone who actually gave a shit about humanity.

That's how I remember it anyway. Prior to all that, unless you watched Fox News or were a web geek you might not even know about Anonymous. As for their overall image today, the media these days only ever seems to mention them anymore when an important website gets raped or something, so that is probably what people associate them with. Even when they are mentioned in a story about the RIAA or something its always as scary hackers, not heroes of free speech. Julian Assange, one of the group's own heroes, has criticized their actio

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>>1411
Torturing animals is a horrible thing...I'm with them on that. If you want to kill and eat a critter? fine, but do it clean, and if you kill it, it better be turned into poop.
And yeah. I suppose you're right. The kinder, gentler anonymous are not the twins, but the freakishly similar looking younger sibling.

>>1412
I'm generally with you on the "kill it = eat it" philosophy but the squirrels here are like rats and so we have a kill-on-sight policy. We can't even use the real guns because of the neighbors (there is a type of .22 round which is basically a tiny shotgun round made for exactly this kind of pest control duty but the stores are all out right now) so its pellet guns and/or sick the dog on them. Neither of which are very effective. I've had to dispatch one or two of the suffering, injured little bastards with the heel of my boot and it feels bad man ( ._.) The cats keep the mice down but the squirrels are too crafty and can climb the trees higher than the cats.

I know we can eat squirrel but these little guys are tiny compared to, say the ones I saw in the US Midwest, definitely a different subspecies and they are nasty little flea-ridden scumbags with hardly a snack on them. Its not worth the effort to skin them and cook them and I'm not sure its really sanitary anyway.

However, come the post apocalypse? tonight's menu is squirrel stew with a side order of deep fried fleas, followed by dandelion sorbet.

Yea, it's somewhat of a treasure trove actually. Gotta say I prefer Fallout 2 (it's probably the best of the series for pure depth), but the first game is still well worth playing.

And a lot of other awesome older games, like FO2, are like $6. completely reasonable, really, for a non DRM game download.

Talking of Fallout though, did the mod community ever reconstruct 1 & 2 using the engine from New Vegas? I heard rumours of a project, but it seemed too big (and brought memories of constructing a Fallout fan-game using Morrowind - that died)

>>1144
CDisplayEx, or Firefox.

Thanks, man! Got about half of those on dead tree format, but the rest would be a good reading!

Wow, great stuff dude.

>>1305
Hm, yes I suppose this makes sense now that I think about it.

1301 SPOILER ALERT!!

If you remember the park lady, when Rick found the bicycle after he got out of the hospital, she was in half but still mobile by crawling. Walkers can tear you apart and kill you, but if they leave enough in one spot before getting distracted and moving on, you'll be up and shambling with the horde.

The comic touched on it faster than the show, but everyone's infected, so it really just depends on how you die. No head, no problem, but anything else and you can still be a potential threat if you can grab hold and bite! The real trouble with zombie scenarios is the "corpses don't rot" and "flies don't follow us", because neither has been done well in films or books. If a corpse has been moving around during the Summer, you can bet there's a cloud of flies following it. You should be able to hear the buzz before you see it! Plus, the idea that re-animated corpses have some anti-rotting ability is the only way to keep them around long enough to be a massive threat. After a good two weeks in the Summer sun, all of them should literally fall apart; end of horde. Just like in War of the Worlds, bacteria can rip you a new one!

>>1384
Yeah I've wondered about this too. I mean, if you could hole up somewhere safe with lots of cans of food and just wait, wouldn't the undead all rot away in the meantime? Unless there were enough living humans wandering around to get infected and keep the plague going, or if it were air- or waterborn or something. But part of the horror of zombies is that they just keep coming and coming, no matter what. It's one of the foundational concepts of the genre.

Zombies getting swarmed by flies and having maggots crawling out of them would be pretty gnarly and terrifying actually. But dead meat that is walking and moaning would confuse the hell out of vultures and other scavengers. You smell like food, now lay down and die already!

(PS: that DON'T DEAD OPEN INSIDE thing alwys makes me smile. Apparently the crew painted the doors separately and when they assembled the set it was too late to change it. Ha ha).