>>1742
You.. are completely wrong. Via NUTS, "Nuclear utilization target selection". A counterforce strike is the best first response...and that means taking out the other guys missiles before they get out of the silos.

>>1743
>>1742

This was the entire basis of the Cold War, Mutually Assured Destruction, etc. Missiles pointed at missiles pointed at missiles... and so on. That's how we ended up with the buildup in the first place. Never give the enemy a chance to launch a first strike and make sure whatever infrastructure they have is annihilated.

Apparently the area I live in was a "second round" target because there is an oil refinery near here.

>>1745
I'm currently in a first tier target... multiple missile silos in the area, major port city...San Fran would have been blasted off the map.

ask the transhumanists, if there is someone who knows about the future, its them.

It... probably won't. If the world ends, there's be no clock, and no-one to set it.

And as it stands, the person who made the clock site died, so probably never.

>>1715

That's right fiver but we sort of derailed the thread. A bit of activity is better than none, this board really looks half dead

>>85
I imagine giant, predatory Venus Flytraps everywhere

>>87
>Cthulhu

>>1728
> some iodine-based cleaner (or better would be chlorahexadine), alcohol, and gauze are your best friends for disinfecting and dressing a wound.

I think the vodka worked, there's no signs of infection. Actually it looks like a non-event now that I've had the chance to look at it, not a big deal at all. There's just a mammalian instinct to panic at the sight of one's own blood.

Not sure about the validity of the methods used therein but there is a neat olde medical book called Vitalogy. Its college dictionary sized with paper human bodies and their vascular, muscular, and skeletal structures as flip pages for each layer. Imagine something that would be seen in a doctor's office on the American frontier. 1860-1920 style medical reference.

>>1727
Oh, sorry, Grays anatomy. Didn't even buy that, just...came to me.

>>1728
I keep around a bottle of distilled water tinctured with salt and I use it for disinfecting various things. Body piercings, my ear infections, etc...stuff is amazing.

So yeah, salt is a must have for camping and emergency first aid, but so is, for my mind, potassium permanganate, for a wide variety of reasons. It works great as a disinfectant, but it also is a handy fire starter. (not as great as other things, but as a single option it kills most water born pathogens, can start fires when combined with glycerine or sugar, signaling, fist aid)

i've dabbled into dreams because of reasons, my own and others, and most kids i knew were always telling me about how they dreamt of the end of the world, but it always seemed like they were just doing it for attention. It would be pretty cool to meet someone who had the actual thing going on.

I recall that after that television show "The Day After" in 1983 there was this sense of hysteria in my small town. Kids were having bad dreams because of it. It really didn't effect me but I remember the tavern down the street had posted a civil defense sign on the side of their building about being "drunk the day after."

klaus topfstedt stinkt nach Schweiß und benutzt kein Deo

> “In the persecution of the Holy Roman Church, there will reign Peter the Roman, who will feed his flock among many tribulations after which the seven hilled city will be destroyed and the dreadful Judge will judge the people.”

Am I the only one who caught this?

>>1702
Needs a pope hat

232342345457'th time? Are you sure you have your generations from the first pope in order? LOL
What could be the worst thing that could happen, people learn to think for themselves?

>>1695
er. It's not terribly small, as for indie, not really, though it is the only game the studio has published so far. And that studio was part of THQ, I believe, so... Though not the only game the game designers have made...the crew for metro did a fair bit on the S.T.A.L.K.E.R games, as well, if I remember correctly.


It's really worth a bit more of your time. For me, I bogged down at some of the less...realistic elements. The flashbacks just made me "wat" all over the place, and the "oh look, a never ending flow of bad AI monsters, ripping off my face for a two minute period" kinda made a lot of the game not enjoyable to play.

But the environment and the survival realism aspects? If it wasn't for the regenerating health, those would be perfect.

A world where gasmasks are a necessity, the filters wear out quickly, and the masks, themselves, can be destroyed. That is amazing.

>>1696

i forgot to add, I Am Alive is about a "realistic" apocalypse (e.g. people die off and society crumbles instead of some wicked clusterfuckery created by aggregated pieces of flesh who must be shot in the head to die). Other than that, I'm not really into horror, but I'll give it another go.

Oh and I don't know about you but I dropped S.T.A.L.K.E.R. almost immediately because of it's shitty controls and ugly graphics. Too bad so sad

>>1699
For it's time, STALKER was fucking pretty. I have no idea what you're talking about. As for bad controls...I really never had that problem.

I got a bit sick of the "oh hey, go do this" "nope, can't go that way, "anomalies". After the first twenty hours or so, but beyond that? Great game.

>>1613
All radio in the US is regulated. which is why a lot of top radio stations are actually hosted in Mexico...they can broadcast as loud as they fucking want.

>>1613
There are plenty of rules but they're not really enforced. Honestly, what government body has the time and resources to pick through that racket and triangulate some random motorist who's signal is burning a little too hot. When I was a volunteer for low power community FM there was a large commercial station that used to step on our signal. When I asked why we can't do something about this, they answered "time and money". In other term's they meant "engineers and lawyers". It would have taken years.

>>1615
ha, didn't know that. Makes sense I suppose, considering how much of the audience is within a stone's throw of the border anyway.

>>1616
You can hear those stations half way up the country, if not further. I'm in the bay area, and some of them come in here from time to time.

>>1678
I almost want to invite my father into this discussion, he was a government engineer for most of his life and knows a lot more about this than I could ever hope to.

This is a hilly place and the reservoirs are situated at a higher altitude, above the general populace in the city. Hence, gravity technology works just fine most of the time.

Water is the last thing I'd worry about in a P-A situation though, at least here. It rains and snows A LOT. Don't let me under-emphasize that either, we get levels of precipitation you wouldn't fucking believe. A rain barrel would easily collect water, plus there's a stream that flows through this property seasonally, and a pond nearby. Boil it of course, but everything should be copacetic.

Talking about NYC though... that place is pretty much science fiction as it is, the infrastructure, the bylaws... the 12 hours I spent there once were certainly not dull but I can't say I long to visit those streets again either.

>>1679
Yeah, water's not a huge worry here either...even if the city water stops flowing, I know where there are multiple streams that would require heavy, heavy filtering and boiling, but it exists. Hell, I know full well how to make sea water safe, for that matter.

It's very much a location based concern. Flatlands have much bigger problems than anywhere with hills. Places like Phoenix? Forgetabout it. City water pressure fails there, people die by the thousands.

>>1680
Phoenix... my old roommate from when I lived in the states grew up there. He said you got two water bills every month. One for drinking water, one for everything else, they were metered separately. He said it was a CRIME to refuse a citizen water if they asked for it. If you owned a restaurant or cafe you were required by law to serve water to anyone who requested it.

From a civil engineering perspective, building massive sprawling cities in the fucking desert without enough water to go around? Not such a great plan.

Arizona is pretty low on my list of places I want to weather out the apocalypse. I'd rather deal with the cold and wind here, at least that's a sort of misery I'm used to.