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6 No. 6
The fact that the site was lost is painful (there was a lot of nice content), however this is a perfect opportunity for a fresh start. To quote Tyler Durden: "It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything."

So, I want to rebuild Megachan. I want to make it better. I am still thinking about how best to achieve this (input would be appreciated), however one thing is for certain: I don't want Megachan to just be another imageboard site. I want it to be more, for example a resource for cyberpunk or steampunk information. The boards should be the core of the site, but not the whole site. Once again, suggestions are welcome.

In the meantime, I ask for some assistance in making Megachan look less generic. A custom CSS theme would be handy, as would be new banners for the tops of the pages. I'm just not entirely sure what dimensions they should be yet.

I will post more later today, however it is nearly 1 AM and I need sleep.
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>> No. 7
personally, I would like to see the cityscapes return, as well as sf/f.

Also, if anyone does make some css themes, I would be very grateful for a dark theme, preferably a black background.
>> No. 8
I'm perfectly willing to dump my collections here, given that I can figure out how to work the directory dumper. I've got a considerable number of cityscapes as well as many of the other things formerly on this board.
>> No. 11
As we are starting Megachan from scratch, I thought that it would also be a good time to stop using the current imageboard scripts. They are stuck in the past and I don't see why we have to keep on using one - while they're fine for end-users, many of the admin features are half-arsed or a pain to use. What I want to do is fork Kusaba X into a script just for Megachan (or create a new one using a modern framework like Symfony or RoR).

This will allow us to make a more dynamic site, however I'm not wanting to go all "web 2.0" or whatever with mulitple twitter feeds and crap like that. Things I'd like to see include making OPs easier (I've already turned off the need to post pictures when starting threads, it's still encouraged but not necessary anymore) and a more dynamic banning system. There is also a whole host of admin features I'd like to see, as well as one or two new board types.

>>8

One of the things I initially didn't want to do is create boards that end up with little activity. I don't like graveyards. However, I noticed that people were doing tons of imagedumps, and I thought, "Hey, there's an idea". So what I have done is create a new section called "Imagedumps", where the focus is more on creating galleries than having discussions (this would also further the aim of the site become a resource). I won't be re-creating all the old boards just for this sake, but have already created /city/ just for this and want some suggestions for others.

I really appreciate everyone re-uploading images. I will need to redo the FAQ on how to use that x-chan image uploader or whatever it was called. In addition to re-uploading, I ask that you spread the word to people whom you think would enjoy the site and be able to contribute positively. This site relies on user-generated content, so the more users generating good content the better for everyone.

On another note, anyone got any good names for a wiki (if one is added)? "Librarium" or "Data Matrix" or something like that?
>> No. 13
I'd like to see /m/, /sp/ and possibly /sci/ back, all under discussion. Perhaps a /m/ in discussion and a /mi/ (mecha imagedumps) in imagedumps. A /p2p/ would also be handy, though I don't know South African copyright law, so that might be legally impossible.

As for a wiki, +1 for Data Matrix.
>> No. 17
>>13

SA follows the Berne Convention (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berne_Convention_for_the_Protection_of_Literary_and_Artistic_Works) but I've yet to hear of a case where it was enforced. The police here don't even have a cybercrime division (AFAIK) and are so overworked they don't care.

Mecha imagedumps can go into /sff/ for now. /m/ was rather dead so using /sff/ will suit it. If there is a decent amount of consistent traffic then a spin-off board can be created.

In general, I don't want to create discussion boards that'll be dead. However, perhaps a solution to this would be similar to Reddit - individuals can become mods of a certain board and "take control" of it. Having this type of "ownership" would perhaps encourage them to build up the community on that specific board.
>> No. 18
>>17
I can dig this. I would like to see those boards back as well, but not as graveyards. I'm just happy that you aren't throwing your hands in the air and giving up ;)
>> No. 22
>>17
Delegating individuals as mods is a good idea. Make sure to delegate well (didn't need to be said). Don't want morons running boards.

Megachan needs some decent traffic. Does anyone have any ideas to increase the userbase or at least user activity? Perhaps we could start some kind of project. Does anyone have any ideas as to what we could do? Fan fiction or RP could be okay, but I was hoping for something bigger.
>> No. 43
>>22
IIRC there is a cross-chan advertising network. I'll see if I can find it. Granted: you'll see an influx of the worst type of users in amongst the new. However, with a dedicated staff of individual mods this problem can be easily controlled. I've found that adding key-phrases (/b/lackup, etc) to the kusaba spamfilter also helps. I recommend upgrading to the latest version to fix a MySQL exploit, enable multiple image uploads in a post, allow the expansion of the first image in a post, and various other tweaks and bugfixes.
>> No. 45
>>43
I second the notion to upgrade to the latest version. If these exploits do exist, attacks are sure to arise in the future.
>> No. 46
>>45
The particular exploit I'm talking about can be used to delete an entire chan. IIRC fapchan was taken down this way, and had to be restored from backups.
>> No. 49
>>46
Ahh, I see. Easy way to take down new *chans then. Going to look into that exploit further. Have any info on it?
>> No. 50
>>49
kusabax.com is the best I can give you.
>> No. 51
http://interchan.org/
free imageboard ranking list
>> No. 52
>>50
Thanks for the lead. Eliminates some search time.
>> No. 53
I'm partial to the sleek look.

Not necessarily minimalist but extra features and graphics tend to make a site feel cluttered and clunky.

I would say make the main page unique but keep the various image boards... well, like imageboards :3. Maybe have some built in custom .css. Would be cool to have some board specific themes to choose from. cyberpunk, steampunk, etc...

Thanks for all your work on this site. One of the best places on the internet imo :D
>> No. 54
>>53
Something can look good, while keeping light weight. Reduce the scripting, change the colors (I wouldn't mind black background with green text). Anything more seems unnecessary.
>> No. 55
>>43
Megachan is using the latest version of KusabaX :)
Regarding traffic, I tried chantoplist, traffic was minimal because it got overtaken by bullshit boards catering to the usual Anon crowd. Traffic from sites like overchan and the like were mostly lurkers. Converting more of them to becoming contributers is the challenge

>>53
I don't see why there can't be a specific theme for each discussion board.

The only issue with the current mods system is that they are more like "global mods", however I haven't fully tested the mod system yet in KusabaX. With the "board ownership" idea I was think more of a mod with lots of control but only for limited spheres of influence (ie, specific boards)
>> No. 56
>>55
Had a quick poke at the mod option. Looks like it is set so that you can limit mod actions to specific boards only, however the UI is lazy (gee, what a surprise) - you still see options that you don't have access to such applying bans to all boards >:(

I think that doing a custom imageboard script for MC would be best.
>> No. 59
>>43
>cross-chan advertising network
Interchan, Chan3 and The Chan Toplist are full of Gaia and 4ch0n users. Not good publicity.
>> No. 60
>>59
wtf is 4ch0n?
>> No. 61
>>60
Sorry, expected that the word "4chan" would be in spam.txt. Most boards filter 4chan links.
>> No. 63
>>61
Ha, no, that'd be pretty childish.

On a related note though, my lovely spam.txt file that block the vast majority of auto-spam is gone T.T
>> No. 64
>Perhaps a /m/ in discussion and a /mi/ (mecha imagedumps) in imagedumps.

I'd like to second this suggestion. Mecha and Cyberpunk don't necessarily go hand in hand, but the intelligent Mecha discussion on megachan was part of what made(/makes) the site worth coming to.
>> No. 65
Can we split sf/f again? I think it was much better off as two separate boards.
>> No. 67
just throwing these out there:
-audio/video streams
-irc channel
>> No. 70
>>67
We should definitely have an IRC channel. Audio and video streams could be okay. I wouldn't mind a voip session with the megachan community.
>> No. 74
>>70

We have an IRC channel. It´s very empty.

#megachan on Rizon
>> No. 76
One thing I noticed a lot was that we would have a bunch of threads where we would just list titles of cyberpunk movies/music/anime/whatever but then there was little discussion about the actual media.

It might be worth looking into to make either a large stickied thread on /cy/ or a wiki type thing that listed and summarized cyberpunk media and then threads on the board could be more of actual discussion of individual shows or imagedumps or whatever. It seems like this would go with the 'theme' of making megachan more of a resource than just another chan site.

This site was sort of an inspiration for what I was thinking about, just in how they list and give short descriptions about cyberpunk stuff:

http://www.cyberpunkreview.com/
>> No. 81
>>76
I'm currently looking at wiki software, so far DokuWiki is the most appealing. The wiki software that powers Wikipedia is overkill I think
>> No. 95
>>81
I'm a MW fan, bhut if you think it's overkill, DokuWiki and TikiWiki are, in my opinion, the best lighter wikis.
>> No. 162
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I've uploaded the Fuhrerchan theme (slightly modified) again - white is back!
>> No. 163
>>162

Nice, the theme looks good :)
>> No. 164
Looks good.
>> No. 165
yay
>> No. 166
>>162
>I've uploaded the Fuhrerchan theme (slightly modified) again - white is back!

Feels like home again :)
>> No. 177
I'm volunteering to moderate /sci/ if you bring it back.
>> No. 178
I would like to say I think this is a neat little site, and I'm glad to see it back.

And I will certainly add what I can.
>> No. 197
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>>11
>fork kusabax

Please don't do that to yourself. It's already a terrible piece of software, trying to make something good out of it is just not worth anyone's time. Just use Wakaba or Kareha and be done with it.
>> No. 198
>>use Wakaba or Kareha

Hahaha. Haha. No.

It's perl that needs to be run via cgi (thus dirt-slow when you get hit with a moderate amount of traffic), plus no global management section so making lots of changes to all the boards in one go is a right bitch. Plus it's userbase are a bunch of circle-jerkers.

If I had to fork KusabaX the first thing I'd do is fix all the admin bugs and half-arsed feature implementations, however if I was to do that I'd may as well just do my own application using a modern framework. Maybe Sympfony or Django, my PHP and Python skills are better than my Ruby skills (which are non-existent, heh)
>> No. 199
>>198
I'm still learning but if you need an extra set of hands for python stuff in a future megachan endeavor I could possibly help out.
>> No. 214
I'm decent at Python and Ruby, if that's needed.

I agree on Kusaba X being terrible, but Wakaba and Kareha are too unwieldy for anyone but someone with an entire datacentre at their disposal to be using.
>> No. 245
Looking at the frameworks, one thing they can't seem to implement the same way as KusabaX is post numbering.

KusabaX uses compound primary keys in a bit of a weird way to have the post numbers increment separately, and the modern frameworks just don't like it when you try do the same thing. So, with the new application, each board will no longer have its own post count. However, this isn't a major loss IMHO, and it allows more flexibility in choosing a framework.

The framework choice will either be Django or Rails. I'm still deciding.
>> No. 262
For a more minor change, could I request a higher image resolution and filesize limit on the imagedump boards, due to the nature of imagedumps?
>> No. 263
Don't see why not. Increased the filesize limits to 5MB on the imagedump boards
>> No. 265
>>263
Thanks.
>> No. 308
Just my two cents, please keep sf and f together.
>> No. 311
>>308
Any specific reason why? I liked them better after they were split.
>> No. 321
Django it is.
>> No. 323
If you need some inspiration for the new software, I think northpole.fi has the best imageboard software ever.
>> No. 336
Hey ryce, maybe you should stick the IRC info somewhere on the site (bottom of the right frame?) so we can get a bit of activity in there.

I just realized the channel and server are posted nowhere on the site.
>> No. 345
>>6
I have a suggestion that I think is in line with your ideal of a site that's more of a resource than simply just an imageboard site (noble goal if you ask me).

While much of site content is about hypothetical situations/technology, it seems like a good idea to have a board specifically to deal with real emergent technology. A board for thoughtful debate on the potential uses of said technology would be amazing, especially given the great community this chan has.
>> No. 346
>>345
But stuff like that normally just gets posted into the relevant board.
>> No. 348
>>345
check out /cy/, there are two or three threads about real, emerging technologies even just on the front page.
>> No. 361
What we lack is a graphic design board.
>> No. 373
Bring back the nigra site theme, please.
>> No. 378
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A theme that uses grays and greens along these lines would be nice, I think.
Instead of greens, colors like dodgerblue might make sense too.
It's not really complete, but I've posted the CSS code here in case someone wants to finish it (ti's based on futaba.css):
http://pastebin.com/ZW1XeFYM
>> No. 381
>>378

this looks like cool beans
>> No. 384
>>378

So what are you calling this theme?
>> No. 385
>>384
uh, I'm not good with naming things. The file I was working in was named clyango.css, clyango being a rendering of 闇い暗号, literally meaning "Dark Cipher" in Nipponese.
If you can come up with something better, go ahead and call it whatever you want.
>> No. 499
>>361
seconded.
>> No. 535
Good evening, megachan. I have a suggestion.

When you look at the front page of 4chan (which no one actually does of course) it shows recent images and posts from across their boards. Due to the inexorable and insane pace of 4chan, this serves as little more than a random image generator if you just sit there F5'ing for a few minutes. But considering the pace of megachan, it would be really handy. See, one of the reasons I don't lurk or post here more often is that it often feels like there is nothing going on. This was even more of a problem on the old megachan, because the boards were sub-divided a lot more. Days would pass before anyone posted in certain boards. But if I could just visit a homepage and view all the recent posts, I could scan all the boards for something of interest to me, including ones I might not even bother to go into otherwise.

Also:
>>43
> IIRC there is a cross-chan advertising network. I'll see if I can find it. Granted: you'll see an influx of the worst type of users in amongst the new.

Over at 1chan, we get a regular flow of idiots starting threads with shitty /b/ macros and someone saying:
> I don't understand, a whole chan about trains? wtf?
and I'm 99% sure that it's because 1chan has an ED page. However, every now and again we get a visitor who says:
> I found this place on ED! A whole chan about trains! Why have I never heard of this!
and then they start dumping their rail pics and become a contributor. So it's a double edged sword but... it is sort of a free advertising tool. Just a thought.

Thanks for all the hard work, chaps. I like this place a lot.
>> No. 536
>>535

There used to be a front page that displayed a random image from each board. I don't have the code for it, and I don't have the time to code it again. Someone else can if they want to
>> No. 540
showing the newest few posts would be amazing, especially if it were a page that was relatively simple, so I could check up on the site from my phone without having to load a bunch of big pages.
>> No. 546
This global style seems to work nicely with MegaChan

http://userstyles.org/styles/23516
>> No. 553
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I've made my theme I posted in >>378 usable in Stylish (all I did was replace all semicolons by the string ' !important;' ).
Just click on Create a New Style and paste this into it. If you use it in Chrome, you may have to delete the first two lines and the last curly bracket.
I'd upload this to userstyles.org, but their mainpage seems to have issues right now.
http://pastebin.com/SPqWBGVa

Maybe someone of you can fix what still needs fixing.
>> No. 554
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Much better, though I'm not a great fan of the glow when you hover, or having to update FireShit to actually get things working.
>> No. 555
>>554
the glow is a matter of taste I guess, but the pics are made slightly translucent when not hovered in order to reduce contrast. I think it's irritating to read a text on a dark background when there's an image in the brightest of whites right next to it.

Firefox seems to have some strange CSS bugs, or maybe I'm just doing something wrong. I have to comment out the line that specifies the border around the textbox and input elements. Otherwise it breaks the background color, and all the buttons and textboxes suddenly have a white background.
Happens only when using Stylish instead of a local web site copy that directly uses the theme, though.
>> No. 556
I don't think that Stylish is what you'd call complete anyway... But the theme is good enough for general use anyway :D
>> No. 557
However, Firefox 3.6 is a big pile of shit, might have to lose the theme and use 2.0 or something.
>> No. 575
Weren't there a few more boards before?
>> No. 580
>>575
Yes there were more boards on the old site but I prefer it this way. Imageboards with small userbases like this one often make the mistake of having too many boards and then it seems like no one is ever posting on any of them because content is distributed so thinly.

Of course, I'm nobody important here, all I have is an opinion.
>> No. 592
>>580
>all I have is an opinion

Get out, we don't like yer types round here...
>> No. 604
Used to lurk on Megachan a lot, glad to see it's back, I don't think a fresh start would be a bad thing.
>> No. 619
Indeed, let us consider it a godsend if we do get a revival going. Hopefully some new members. I'm really pullin' for this site!
>> No. 684
Some Chan boards have the option of uploading multiple images at once. That would be useful when dumping wallpaper.
>> No. 685
>>684
There is a lot that I'd like to see added, but what little time I did have has disappeared due to work commitments
>> No. 717
Someone should start a Megachan wiki with information about the things posted here.
>> No. 721
A Megachan wiki is not a bad way to get the site going again. I still certainly don't think it's hit the revival point. Not enough people have heard of it, from what I gather.
>> No. 722
>>717
>>721

Don't you think a wiki would just take attention away from the actual imageboard?
>> No. 727
>>722
Maybe once it gets bigger.
>> No. 728
>>727
The goal of this site is not to make megachan the biggest imageboard around, it's to have a place where we can intelligently discuss cool stuff.

A wiki would be cool, I doubt we'd make it big enough to actually serve a purpose though.

A few more boards however could go a long way in fostering activity.
>> No. 732
>>728
More boards adds too much diversity to the user base. If megachan has 10 boards, that's 10 places to spread the users. More boards, more diversity and less communication.

No one wants to search through 20 boards twice a day to see, maybe 2 updated. As it is, I like every boards genre, but only check /disc/ and /cy/ regularly. This isn't just because I find the subjects interesting, but also because these boards are by far the most active.

More boards, more diversity and less communication. It does offer more organization, but it's unnecessary considering the current size of megachan's userbase.
>> No. 738
>>732
I agreed. Maybe after we have more userbase growth. I can tell we are already expanding.
>> No. 1142
I think the site is better this time around.
>> No. 1143
>>361
So how's this idea then? I can't name many imageboards with specialized graphics boards, we have a niche to fill. It could even be dedicated to visual arts in general, from painting to vexillology to web design to 3D.
>> No. 1146
>>1143
I like this idea.
>> No. 1166
>>1146
I think a /tent/ for user-created content and discussion of it would work better.
>> No. 1169
>>1166
What would /tent/ mean?
>> No. 1178
>>1169
I'd guess "content". :|
>> No. 1185
>>1178
Dunno man, I was tired, and I meant to write /content/, but wrote /tent/ instead because I was in one.
>> No. 1186
>>1185
A real tent or just one in your bedroom made with sheets?
>> No. 3219
>>1169
A camping board.


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