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529 No. 529 Locked Stickied hide quickreply [Reply]
I haven't posted since Moses was a baby.
The other day, I sort of rediscovered Megachan.
I'm very happy to see that such a great 'chan is still up and running, and that the quality of the posts is as high as ever.
I'm going to dump a folder I just call "interesting." The subjects and quality of the images are all over the place. Some of them might not even be, strictly speaking, scifi or fantasy. Never the less, this seems like the best place for it.
Dump some stuff yourself if you'd like. Somebodies bound to find it savable.
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>>2269
Ok VPS has been upgraded :) I'm locking this thread due to the amount of images, feel free to create a new one :)


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4352 No. 4352 hide expand quickreply [Reply]
ITT: we discuss bad science as it appears in so-called "science" fiction. Someone over in /cy/ suggested "suspension of disbelief" which is what triggered this and while necessary at times, dammit I don't always want to suspend anything. These can be specific examples or general conventions, also exceptions where someone did it right for once. I should state that I do not have a science background, in fact I dropped out of high school, but sometimes I just want to hurl a beer can at the screen when I see certain things. If I know better than writers who make a living at this, something is wrong.

Let's get the obvious out of the way:

- Noises in space, this is a biggie. If it's not a tense EVA scene where the frantic breathing inside the helmet is enough and you need sound for cinematic reasons, there could be radio chatter or internal noise from some equipment or other. Or do what they did in Firefly and just have some music cued for when they go to hard burn. Also the epic battle in the Serenity movie where there is sound was fought in the air despite being fought by fancy spaceships of all different kinds. They weren't that high up either, there was weather visible behind the attacking ships.

- Lasers that you can clearly see.

- Lasers that go "pew" or really make any noise at all. Unless there's some reason the power supply needs to make a noise and maybe there is, but otherwise shut up. Regardless, considering how much energy it would take to power a laser that could actually function as a small arm? Why not just use a damn rifle, unless you were in a vacuum (getting to that point in a minute). The US Navy is actually working on laser cannons as we speak but these would be aboard big ships that already use a lot of power.

- people walking around on the moon or Mars or some random tiny rock as if they were in Earth gravity. This could easily be filmed instead by having people walking awkwardly in clunky space suits, then shown in slo-mo.

- Radio that transmits across interstellar distances instantaneously.

- Terraforming that doesn't take centuries or millenia
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>> No. 4635
Oh yeah, this was a cool read and very relevant. Official NASA statement on what actually might happen to a human being tossed out into the void:

http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/ask_astro/answers/970603.html

Compare with examples from fiction. You don't explode instantaneously, your blood doesn't boil out of your ears in a matter of seconds, nor do you turn into a human Ice Pop right away because you aren't immersed in cold water or freezing winds, so you lose heat only by radiation and not conduction. Exposure to solar radiation without a blanket of atmosphere however IS a problem, assuming you're in sight of the sun. Also, the bends in a really bad way.

The scene in Event Horizon (which admittedly crosses the line into fantasy, and intentionally so) where the kid is in the airlock which is about to crack. Someone tells him to shut his eyes tight and blow all the air out of his lungs. Might save you a few seconds?
>> No. 4639
>>4635
Yup...Being exposed to space is very much like being exposed to atmosphere after being at the bottom of a trench. Only worse. explode your lungs in your chest and veins in your eyeballs popping worse.
>> No. 4650
>>4635
They did something like this in Titan AE - Cale and Korso blast out of a hangar bay in a small craft but their windshield gets cracked and starts to fracture. Korso tells Cale to exhale, then smashes the glass with a fire extinguisher and rides it up to their waiting ship

Probably the only scientifically accurate part of the whole movie. It was fun though, I recommend it.


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4642 No. 4642 hide expand quickreply [Reply]
As the resident weeaboo, I feel the need to make a thread for the furtherment of space anime. A lot of anime fans seem to shy away from these shows nowadays, caught up in moe and schoolgirl fantasies, and while there's nothing wrong with a bit of that now and then, people are really missing out. The same goes for staunch Western sci fi fans who refuse to give anime shows a look in due to their prejudice against the form as being too full of fanservice or silliness.

Gundam - goes without saying, really. Even 0079, the original show, holds up nowadays. The animation is surprisingly good (especially the HD remasters), and the story has as much political intrigue and personal struggles as the likes of the Battlestar reboot; only unlike modern Western sci fi, it doesn't feel the need to dumb down the political storylines to make the analogy with reality.
Personally, I'm not a huge fan of anything outside the Universal Century timeline, but some people love those other shows.

Martian Successor Nadesico - actually a pun on another great space anime, Space Battleship Yamato. (Yamato Nadeshiko is a archetype of feminity in Japan best understood as 'the flower of Japanese womanhood.') The main series of this manages to parody the likes of Yamato, Gundam, et al, without becoming simply a gag anime. The drama ramps up towards the end of the series as well, and what starts as a fairly light-hearted space adventure becomes very serious. The characters are all memorable, and it's worth watching just so that you can enjoy their development in the interim between the series and the film, which is a lot darker and drops a lot of the jokes. Unfortunately a second film was cancelled, so the franchise ends on a rather sour note, but it's still well worth checking out.

Wings of the Honneamise - Gainax's first really major production, and a film that should be a million times better known. Unfortunately, it was torpedoed upon release by the success of Ghibli's Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind (which I actually regard as rather a weak film). This is all about an alternate universe, and the fledging space force full of losers who become determin
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I absolutely loved Planetes - I have to say it's the only anime I've ever enjoyed, but hopefully I can amend that statement after checking out some of your recommendations.

I wouldn't say BSG dumbed down any real-life connections foreign occupation and suicide bombers for example but I'm willing to consider the possibility that I've just been missing out on comparatively harder-hitting stuff.
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>>4647
Oh I didn't mean that the themes were dumbed down so much as it felt the need to be very direct in what it discussed, rather than maintaining a real distance as sci fi generally allows. I felt it was a little dumbed down to so openly treat the themes, they may as well have called it the Battleship America... It was, I suppose, universal enough? Not that the show sucked though.

Anyone that goes in for Legend of Galactic Heroes has my support. I'm afraid to start it because of the staggering amount of episodes (110), spin-offs, movies, etc. Apparently it's all fantastic, but it seems a bit of a full-immersion thing. The novel itself is meant to be rather good too.

Blue Gender might be worth checking out too, though a lot of it isn't set in space. Still, it's one of the late-90s serious, dark anime allowed by the popularity of Evangelion. Again, dark mecha story featuring invading aliens, humans are forced to live in orbiting space stations. Not the best ever, but I could think of worse starting points, and I guess unlike Eva it has a proper ending XD
>> No. 4649
>>4648
> Anyone that goes in for Legend of Galactic Heroes has my support. I'm afraid to start it because of the staggering amount of episodes

That's what's held me off.


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4539 No. 4539 hide expand quickreply [Reply]
I don't have as much as matremalzra did, but what say we throw whatever random /sff/ pics we find that are too good not to share in this and attempt to beat his 1700 or so images?
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4374 No. 4374 hide expand quickreply [Reply]
Or best/recommended sci-fi series in general I suppose.

I'm looking for boxed sets of sci-fi series. I've seen Farscape, Babylon 5, Space Above and Beyond, Sliders, more Star Treks than I can stomach, most of the original Battlestar Galactica, a lot of Dr. Who, and most of Lost in Space (turkey day marathon on the Sci-Fi channel a decade or more ago, oh god, I wanted to die. The movie was 10,000x better.)

Stargate appealed to me, so I'll be getting that eventually, though it's not all that spacey, then neither is Sliders. I've seen Serenity, but haven't seen Firefly; I never knew it was a series until after I saw the movie. I'm not sure about Red Dwarf. I've tried to watch it, but fail to like it. Not sure why; maybe it didn't age well?

What am I missing? No anime please, that's a whole thread unto itself.
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>>4584
>Radical labor circles
I didn't get that vibe at all. They felt a lot more like Old West-type ballads.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tg8i5fgNL8M
Not exactly in the same style, but it's a real world example.
>> No. 4593
>>4592
Radical labour songs (esp. in America) are pretty much directly descended from a lot of cowboy songs, traditional favourites, etc. The IWW songbook was full of stuff that wouldn't feel out of place in a Western.
>> No. 4594
>>4593
I was just going to mention the IWW. They have an extensive repertoire of songs going back over a century and some of it is actually great, I didn't mean to dismiss it wholesale up there. Actually it was quite important during the darker times of their history to cling to a working class/underclass culture of some kind, complete with song and poetry. For morale reasons, and as a way of recording the sacrifices people made along the way. But some of it is crap, I have to be honest.

>>4591
It is how we lose culture, but it can also be how we retain it. Names and meanings of songs and stories change and evolve. Human culture is malleable and in a constant state of change... nothing last forever anyway.


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4499 No. 4499 hide expand quickreply [Reply]
watching Dune (Smithee version) on BBCA, posting some Dune stuff.
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SHOO!
SHOO! SHOO!
>> No. 4528
Cool dump. The lego one is adorable. I need to read Dune again, I was terribly depressed when I read it the first time and so it didn't click the way I thought it should have. I was also just reading the wiki pages about the novel and movie a second ago and some of the film reviews are pretty amusing. A lot of people really hate the fuck out of that movie.
>> No. 4559
I fucken loev the book and the David Lynch version. Its is easily the deepest and most complex fiction I've read. Sean Young still haunts me too. Anyone that disagrees is a Tom Clancy fan.


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4558 No. 4558 hide quickreply [Reply]
From wired today;

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/01/space-station-concepts/


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>> No. 4332
>>4329
neat, thanks
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4532 No. 4532 hide expand quickreply [Reply]
Darkest of the Hillside Thickets - 20 Minutes of Oxygen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rSI-rMPVJM

Have a song about space /sff/
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>> No. 4536
>>4535
It's a tiny chan. It's like living in a four building town and "sometimes visiting" the one bookstore.
>> No. 4537
>>4535
> Visitor

Now wait just a minute, why did you feel the need to capitalize that word? Makes me suspicious.. State your species, homeworld and purpose here or be prepared to be blasted out of orbit by... formidable... and horrifying... uh, weapons... of some kind.

You have one Earth hour to respond.
>> No. 4538
>>4536 see >>4537
I just wanted to make a lame sci fi joke.


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dump your favorit starship here please
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What I liked about SG:U was that not only was the Destiny a pretty cool design for a starship but that it was one of the only few shows while along with doing standard scifi space fare, that also have ever tried to break out and go after something of such a massive scale for a topic such as the origin of the universe. Would have loved to see how they played that one out if they had the chance...
>>522
>>523
I used to love every bit of that movie but then after watching it again last weekend with a friend I all of a sudden noticed not only did that little fuckin muggie Wikus totally bail out on such an unbelievably incredible journey to wallow in a dump but knowing he could/would be turned back to being a human again that it should have dawned on him that he could have gathered so much wisdom and knowledge to bring back and share with the rest of us that it should have felt like the ONLY logical thing to do. I don't know how else I can explain all of the instantaneous rage that exploded in me when I realized that bullshit. Now, to me, its one of the greatest scifi movies ever made, that ends in garbage-pickin. wtf...
>> No. 4531
>>4530
As I recall, Christopher never offered Wikus a lift anyway. Wikus stayed behind to cover Christopher's escape, trusting that Christopher would return and fix him someday. Something like that I think, uh it's been a while.
>> No. 4533
I think it was like
"I'll be back"
"Cool, when?"
"A few years lol"
"wat"
"kthxbye"


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